July 9, 2008
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Homosexuality and Homophobia.
Right now the featured question is, “How do you feel about the adoption of children by same sex couples?” Most of the answers I read were in support of it, which shows that even though we have yet to be unified on the topic of same sex marriages, that we realize that homosexuality does not have anything to do with parenting. One of the pages though, had this to say about same sex adoption,
“the world is already so fucked up…….who gives a damn anymore. i’m against gay marriage and gays and all that but i’m like whatever about it…..don’t shove it in my face and leave me alone….but adopting kids??? that’s just sick! poor child is gonna grow up being teased and tormented for the rest of their life! (at least until they move out) poor sad little child.”
Of course, I don’t agree with that statement so I left a comment and went on my merry way. Well, this morning the user had left me a comment so I went back to their site and saw (to my horror) that they had reposted the question with a slightly different answer,
“i decided to answer this again because i’m bored and have read so many funny responses to this question. first off…..i am NOT a homophobic if i was i would be scared of gay people and could not even be around them. i am just simply AGAINST gay marriage and having 2 gays raise a child. i personally do not like the lifestyle of gays and i think it is somewhat repulsive……but i DO NOT blame them….i know it’s genetic i’m not a retard. as long as they’re not around me then fine…..but i don’t want 2 gays making out in front of me or anything (i don’t even like it when STRAIGHT people make out in front of me there’s rooms for that and private places) i think that it would kill the poor childs chances at having a normal life. poor kid…..he would get made fun of all through school. by being gay they know they will not have what we call…a normal life. so why should they get married and why should they be allowed to adopt a child? even if the USA passes laws for gay marriage in every state and lets gay couples adopt a child they still will not lead a normal life.
go ahead and start bitching at me because what i said was SO WRONG!!!! but if you have half a brain and take a few seconds to THINK then you will see that i am against the whole concept of gay marriage, and gay adoption, but not against gays personally.
go ahead and come up with a response.”This attitude doesn’t so much as offend me but it hurts to know that there are so many discriminating people in this world. This user is very young and that suggests that it’s not just their beliefs, but their parents’ beliefs as well. I left this comment to the above post, tell me what you think.
“Yes, you have an opinion. But it is an ill-informed and uneducated opinion. You are also unreceptive to new ideas and by definition, that is what makes you close minded. You don’t know anyone who was brought up by gay parents and you obviously feel that because you don’t approve of gay marriage, that most other people not only don’t approve but find it disgusting and mockable. To give the argument that a child wouldn’t have a normal life is laughable. A child who gets passed around foster homes isn’t getting a normal life.
The thing that bothers me the most is that because I disagree with you, you think that I should just shut up and go away. If you’re allowed to voice your opinion (which, you surely are, in fact you are more than free to do so) than I am as well. I know that I won’t be able to help you understand and that’s in most part due to the fact that you immediately shut down when opposing information is introduced. I hope that you are headed off to college in the fall because not only is it a great experience, but you will be forced to stretch your horizons–an activity that they actually discourage in high school (which is such a shame).
I don’t know if you’re interested or not, but studies have yet to conclude that homosexuality is indeed genetic, as of yet, there is no “gay gene”. It’s not a criticism, just an observation. Also, you’re definition of homophobia is not complete, yes it does describe a fear of but also an aversion to and discrimination against homosexuals. So, yes, what you describe about being repulsed by gay people (“i personally do not like the lifestyle of gays and i think it is somewhat repulsive”) and that you would prefer them to not be around you (“as long as they’re not around me then fine”) is homophobia.”
And, did you know that the Xanga spell checker doesn’t recognize the words “gay” or “homosexual”? That’s weird.
Comments (20)
Kudos to you for sticking up for what you believe in, and for taking the high road and not getting into a spitting match with this kid. It is very sad that there are people out there who are so close-minded and ignorant. Perhaps the fact that he/she is young means that there is a glimmer of hope…..maybe he/she will mature and begin to see things differently. I hope so.
@turningreen - that’s exactly what I am hoping for. The world would be a better place if we could accept each other. Not as blacks, mexicans, whites, asians, gays, cross-dressers, transgenders, liberals, conservatives, whatever but just accept each other as people with thoughts and feelings.
i think i’d have to disagree with the current PC view that same sex adoptions don’t affect the view of the child’s sexual orientation b/c it’s all based on the concept that sexual orientation is something you don’t choose.
i may be the minority who believe this, or perhaps the minority that actually voices a non-PC view like this one, but I still believe sexual orientation is a behavichoice.
studies have shown again and again, that the parents have usually a very high influence on a child’s development. i can’t understand how you can then go and say, that the sexual orientation of the parents has no influence whatsoever on the sexual preferences of the child growing up. of course it influences the child.
but then again, like i said above, it really depends on what you believe sexual orientation is… a choice, or genetics.
then again, if it’s genetics, then by the law of genetics, wouldn’t homosexual “genes” die off since they can’t pass off their gene into the next generation? that’s an interesting thought, i’m gonna have to research that topic see what the genetic theory says about the homosexual gene… (thoughtful)…
as for the whole accepting each other as human beings.. does homosexual community wish for that? or do they wish for their homosexuality to be accepted as a norm?
no matter how many laws or PC views you pass out there.. you can’t force people to accept people without their consent… you can educate and hope they make their choices that accept a certain belief, but belief is always a choice.
history has told again and again, that forced behavior only drives true beliefs underground, to what we have today… where on the topside… PC Friendly world… homosexuality (there’s nothing wrong with it), yet deep inside, we keep our own beliefs to ourselves for fear of persecution socially, politically, and what not…
Do people actually expect others to take them seriously when they can’t even spell or use grammar properly?
That person should probably stay in high school for a few more years and, you know, learn his/her own language first.
Nice topic and post
@MayoKetchup - ”…by the law of genetics, wouldn’t homosexual “genes” die off since they can’t pass off their gene into the next generation?”
That is an EXCELLENT point. The only way for homosexual genes to carry over through procreation would be if some people were “carriers”.
But no one’s suggested that. Again, I like that point, I never thought of that.
@fullmetalbunny - i thought that was a common debate, of sorts… that either, you’re born gay, or you choose to be gay? common PC is that you’re born this way, hence, it isn’t a choice, and you can’t choose to be “straight”. well, if you’re born gay, doesn’t that mean genetically your sexual orientation is toward the same sex? then going back to the whole same sex couples adopting children debate.. their argument is that kids won’t grow up gay b/c it’s something you’re born with, not something you teach or learned from behavior passing from parent to child?
but like i said above, i still have to research what the laws of genetics actually have to say about that whole passing on the gene, if such a thing exists… personally, i think we all have weaknesses, whether it’s behavior/trauma/abuse that is passed on from parent to child… or weather we’re genetically prone to certain weaknesses… alcohol/drugs, sex, violence, curiosity, disorders, talking during movies, etc…..
I think it’s arrogant to assume that we know why certain people are homosexual. The point is, we don’t know. Many gay people are born to straight parents. Does that mean that the parents conditioned their child to be a homosexual? Don’t you think that in our society where homosexuality is still somewhat taboo, that you wouldn’t want to choose a life that would render you an outcast? Or, are we of the mindset that those homosexuals who choose that lifestyle are sick and perverse?
I don’t think that homosexuals are asking for anything other than to be accepted in our society. If we continue to voice this attitude that homosexuality is fine as long as you keep it away from me and my family? We are all people, we belong to one race, one species.
Do we think that God hates the Gays and Lesbians? Do we think that He wishes for them to be ridiculed or to not be happy? Does homosexuality make you question your own morals and beliefs? If so, why should that be?
i do in fact know a few people that have been raised by gay parents…….results weren’t good, (3 people in fact) i watched them get made fun of every day they had no friends because people were scared of their enviornment they grew up in. they were very secluded and did not attempt to try and talk to anyone and when i tried to talk to one of them to invite them over with my friends because i felt bad and they screamed at me to go away. (seventh grade)
and i clearly stated in my posting that i knew it was genetic.
now you know where i’m coming from. i’ve seen what having gay parents does to a kid. not all cases are probably like that but now at least you see where i’m coming from and can stop bothering me…….cuz it’s getting old.
@dead_poetic009xx - my response to you saying that it’s genetic is that no one can explain why individuals are homosexual.
Your story is a sad one, but obviously you didn’t know these individuals very well. It’s nice that you tried to reach out to them but I think there was probably more that you could have done.
As for bothering you, I’m sorry that you don’t realize that the internet is a public forum.
As a society we should be looking out for the welfare of our children, and part of that is learning to love and accept each other as individuals.
The Xanga spell checker also doesn’t recognize “supercalicfragilisticexpayaladoshis”, which make me mad, because I don’t know how to spell it.
Good post.
RYC: At least have more than one, it makes a kid nuts not having a sibling to turn to or not having someone to play with. And 17 kids would be scary!
Don’t worry… in 40 or so years, nobody will care about homosexuals and everyone will find a new small group of people to hate for no reason.
@AvenueToTheReal - I can’t wait!
This has been one popular question. It looks like everyone is answering it.
Actually there are some studies on homosexual coupes as parents vs heterosexual couples. No hard fast conclusions, but the childern raised by homosexual couples do fairly well. So long as you ignore the fact that they are more likely to engage in bisexual and homosexual sex.
Ok I see a problem with that, but i will be called a homophobe for pointing out that the gay lifestyle is not the most healthy of lifestyles
Hey there.. thanks for coming by… nice to meet you… I used to be rather homophobic, but I have several friends, now, that are homosexuals and lesbians and while I still don’t understand all the reasons behind it, I accept them and love them. I do believe that some are genetic related and some are just because they want to be.
At any rate, I’m glad that you stood up for your convictions… you are a strong lady!
Have a great day and many blessings to you! Oh, you made Top Ten on my blog! whoo hoo!
Hugs!
Connie
Oh, by the way… CST means Central Standard Time… you are in Arizona, so, are you an hour ahead of Texas? It’s 11:26 PM here right now, so would it be 12:26 AM there? ha! I don’t know…
I always do a NEW blog that say’s “Let’s Play TOP TEN”… when you see that, come play, if you can!
thank you.
As an adopted child myself, I’ve got no comment on this post. You have to be one to get it…. and hell yeah, I’d (okay, damnit….I am commenting now
) I’d take gay parents over the two I got (*chose me*
….ummmm….I am so 100% against adoption that I think we should go not further……abuse sucks) any day. Adoption as a whole? And the way this (fq) question was worded? I take offense with highly. I am highly against adoption. I’d choose abortion any day. I really would……and I can say so, living that life, and raised as an adoptive child in a very abusive home? I would never do that to a child…..I just wouldn’t do that to any prodigy of mine. Adoption isn’t something that I think is good for anyone…..comes with it’s own huge set of problems, on its own. One’s that I would never put any child through.
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